Ruth, Taryn and Philippa from Mayden, a health tech company that’s Made Without Managers
Three authors of the book ‘Made Without Managers: One Company’s Journey to New Ways of Working’ join me to talk about what they have learned at Mayden, a cloud based health tech solutions organisation in the UK. Ruth Waterfield (developer and scrum master), Taryn Burden (product owner of Mayden’s ne
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Erik Korsvik Østergaard on fragmented organisations and futures literacy
Erik is an executive advisor on transformation and the future of work, leadership, and collaboration, and the author of ‘Teal Dots in an Orange World.’ We talk about how this 'new ways of working' movement is evolving, and in particular a positive trend that Erik calls 'fragmented organisations' tha
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Mette Aagaard on how a public sector organisation with 8,000 employees is exploring autonomous teams
For the past year, the Municipality of Slagelse in Denmark has been experimenting with autonomous teams. Of the 8,000 employees, some 25-30 units so far have opted in to learn how to make decisions as a team using key principles of Sociocracy. Mette Aagaard, Head of Development, shares what they hav
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Lina Maskoliūnė on lessons from a self-managed business experiment in Lithuania
Lina shares the story of her time at Finnish commercial real estate company Technopolis where she led the transformation of the Lithuania business unit. Inspired by Frederic Laloux's book Reinventing Organisations, she got the mandate from her boss to run her business unit of 20 people in a totally
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Sofia Reis and Luís Alberto Simões on experiments guided by autonomy and connection at Mindera
Sofia and Luís talk about the self-organisation journey at global software engineering company, Mindera. With 900+ employees and counting, they have evolved as a company without managers through experiments guided by questions like: Will this bring more autonomy? Is it human friendly? This has resul
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A podcast exploring the emerging world of self-managing teams and progressive organisations Hosted by Lisa Gill


The Leadermorphosis podcast is transforming the world of work one conversation at a time. Join host Lisa Gill as she talks to practitioners, authors, and thinkers from all over the world who are at the cutting edge of new ways of working, leading, and being together. Each guest shares what they have learned on their journeys of reinventing organisations or helping to transform how we see the world. The aim? To inspire and embolden listeners to start experimenting, and act their way into a more decentralised, more human future of work.

“The Leadermorphosis podcast is the absolute gold standard of conversations about organisations.” – Richard D. Bartlett, co-founder of Loomio, The Hum and director of The Enspiral Foundation

Lisa Gill

Lisa was included in the Thinkers50 Radar 2020 for her work with self-managing teams and is the author of ‘Moose Heads on the Table: Stories About Self-Managing Organisations from Sweden’ (2020). She is an organisational self-management coach, trainer with Tuff Leadership Training and founder of Reimaginaire.

“Turning self-managed teams from a good idea into reality is a big challenge and Lisa Gill is leading the way in making it happen.” – Thinkers50

Leadermorphosis is powered by Tuff Leadership Training. Tuff trains people in the mindset and skills needed to lead in more involving ways and create working climates built on trust and openness, as well as helping organisations introduce or develop self-managing teams.

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Host – Lisa Gill

Editing – Shaun Harvey

Intro track VO – Maria Hentzel

Intro track music – Robert Valsinger

Website – Tom Locke

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