Purpose

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Peter Koenig on source, money and consciousness
...o. And then we turn towards what these other levels which you could describe, 'servant leadership,' (or they're given different kinds of terms), when purpose comes really into view, people start then to look, see the limit and come to look at what their purpose is, their mission is in life, etc, etc. Yeah,...more
...they're given different kinds of terms), when purpose comes really into view, people start then to look, see the limit and come to look at what their purpose is, their mission is in life, etc, etc. Yeah, I think where I get really excited about the possibilities that your source work offers, is that I thin...more
... that and we can all willingly step into that". (It) Doesn't become a dictatorship suddenly, because we're still conscious human beings drawn to this purpose, but it just makes things a little bit clearer, a bit more transparent, and it can be really freeing in terms of suddenly energy channels get unblock...more
...re. But this notion of shared responsibility, I think this is what it comes down to ultimately, and it gets translated into shared vision, and shared purpose, which I feel is extremely dangerous for the people that are working in it because it tends to lead to a compromise where everybody is compromising o...more
... the thing that people don't like sometimes), to insist that there's one source for each initiative with a very singular vision, and a very singular purpose related to that person, and in a sense, the calling is had to materialise, or she has had to materialise something....more
...lot, and many other people in this field of new ways of working talk about organisations as being a living thing, having its own soul, having its own purpose, its own will and listening to the organisation for what it wants to become, and things like that. So I guess that perhaps falls into what you're des...more
...person. So I think yeah, sometimes for me, the danger of talking about organisations is if it's this living thing and talking about listening for its purpose, and so on. My suspicion is that there is someone there playing the role of source, but it's maybe not transparent and so what we're really listening...more
... no, apparently it's not that. Okay!" Peter Koenig: So, what I say is that the organisation's source, if one's talking about that, the organization's purpose, excuse me, is the purpose of the founder. The purpose of the source, the vision is the vision of the source. And if it isn't, the whole thing is wea...more
...at. Okay!" Peter Koenig: So, what I say is that the organisation's source, if one's talking about that, the organization's purpose, excuse me, is the purpose of the founder. The purpose of the source, the vision is the vision of the source. And if it isn't, the whole thing is weakened. It needs to be that ...more
... what I say is that the organisation's source, if one's talking about that, the organization's purpose, excuse me, is the purpose of the founder. The purpose of the source, the vision is the vision of the source. And if it isn't, the whole thing is weakened. It needs to be that actually. And I agree with y...more
...The more conscious we become, the more we can use these parts of ourselves, including violence, when it's appropriate, to realise our mission and our purpose in life and actually, it becomes transmuted into an expression of love. So we're more loving to ourselves, we're not trying to suppress, we accept ou...more
...o it consciously, out in the open and name it, and then we can do something about it and check in with is that what we want? Is that in service of my purpose or our purpose together or not? And in terms of talking about the money work, I think there is great potential there and I think it is a learning ed...more
...y, out in the open and name it, and then we can do something about it and check in with is that what we want? Is that in service of my purpose or our purpose together or not? And in terms of talking about the money work, I think there is great potential there and I think it is a learning edge for people e...more
... know I have lots of money stories to blame) but there's an opportunity to see money as a tool - as something that can be used to help us realise our purpose or not. Peter Koenig: Yeah, that's the purpose of this money work actually - to do precisely that, to have money be the facilitator that it was origi...more
...t there's an opportunity to see money as a tool - as something that can be used to help us realise our purpose or not. Peter Koenig: Yeah, that's the purpose of this money work actually - to do precisely that, to have money be the facilitator that it was originally invented to be. Because if you look at th...more

Bernadette Wesley on bridging inner and outer transformation

...d then in organisations, especially when your livelihood depends on it, you have a boss. And even in progressive organisations or where you do have a purpose aligned business, which is a group that I work with, I found it was even harder to some extent - which really caught me by surprise. Because it meant...more
...nds terrible but you would go for the promotion, make more money and that was the mindset and it still is today in many places. But now that I'm in a purpose-aligned workplace it brings up all of the things like this that are so important to me. And so then you don't want to jeopardise that by bringing you...more
...pmental organisation and the self- managing, self organising approach. And listening to you talk about being surprised by how challenging it is in a purpose-aligned organisation to let go of, or be mindful of, this need to look good. You know, it becomes high stakes. I really resonate with that. And I spe...more
...I still bringing that into a meeting? How is that still holding me back from really taking a stand for what is mine to steward and connecting it with purpose? That, for me is where our power lies. It's the two steps of clearing the things that are blocking us and holding us back in really effective ways. ...more
...and hopefully does something to the field between us now and to whoever will be listening. Those micro-moments make a difference. And that, to me, is purpose-aligned. So it used to intimidate me when people talked about purpose aligned. I was like, 'I don't know, stop asking me what's your purpose'. Becau...more
...r will be listening. Those micro-moments make a difference. And that, to me, is purpose-aligned. So it used to intimidate me when people talked about purpose aligned. I was like, 'I don't know, stop asking me what's your purpose'. Because my purpose would be always huge and abstract. And then I couldn't g...more
... me, is purpose-aligned. So it used to intimidate me when people talked about purpose aligned. I was like, 'I don't know, stop asking me what's your purpose'. Because my purpose would be always huge and abstract. And then I couldn't get it down to 'assist in the global awakening', or one of these grandios...more
...ed. So it used to intimidate me when people talked about purpose aligned. I was like, 'I don't know, stop asking me what's your purpose'. Because my purpose would be always huge and abstract. And then I couldn't get it down to 'assist in the global awakening', or one of these grandiose things. And I reali...more
...of us that will fight tooth and nail to say we're not doing that. And that's just how we're wired. And to know that that's natural, and that it has a purpose - it has protected us, it has served something, it's just that now, do we want to make a choice to serve something else? And it's increasing our choi...more
...'s visible but less tangible. And this feels like a really rich way to create a space where you can start to bring in some of those themes, where the purpose is development. I really liked that. Bernadette Wesley: That's a good way to put it. Yes, it does make the space for that. Because the micro-moments ...more
... had to manage. And different parts of us will take over at different times - for survival or protection to function really, so they all serve a good purpose. But now it seems to me the work is to sort of bring that self with a capital S, even more strongly online to compassionately work with those parts a...more
...n touch that point of leverage that Otto talks about is key. For me, relating to the parts and understanding who those parts of me are and what their purpose was, and reassigning tasks in a loving, compassionate way, and doing the somatic work to integrate why they were doing it (not just brushing over it)...more

Miki Kashtan on the three shifts needed for self-managing organisations to thrive

...ter, it will need to realign itself with needs. Because otherwise, there comes a moment where it's like, wait a minute, we're self managing, for what purpose? To increase the profit of one person somewhere that can then accumulate? Why would we do that? So the way that so called traditional organisations –...more
...ments. And yet that provides a certain kind of odd coherence. So if you remove that, you need something else to create coherence. And that comes from purpose at all levels, which is very, very, very closely related to me. And it also comes from having agreement about how you function together, which are al...more
... It's a complete shift. Miki Kashtan: Yes. Most organisations in the world are designed to maximise accumulation for a few individuals. That is their purpose. And that purpose has nothing inspiring about it, except possibly for the person who's going to get the money, but even then, I don't actually think ...more
...hift. Miki Kashtan: Yes. Most organisations in the world are designed to maximise accumulation for a few individuals. That is their purpose. And that purpose has nothing inspiring about it, except possibly for the person who's going to get the money, but even then, I don't actually think it's inspiring. It...more
...im of doing well, by doing good, which you know, we might or might not get to, I want to put that on the side. But whatever it is, ultimately, if the purpose is to maximise profits and accumulation for one or a few individuals, there isn't going to be a strong enough "why" that is intrinsic for people to o...more
... be very willing to collect the garbage from time to time, not all the time as my sole job, but I might be very willing to do that – when I know what purpose it serves. And then I won't need any extrinsic motivation, I will do it because I know that every time I take the garbage out, I'm serving such and s...more
...t serves. And then I won't need any extrinsic motivation, I will do it because I know that every time I take the garbage out, I'm serving such and so purpose. If there is no purpose you will need to force me and you don't force me with the gun these days, mostly you force me with: "You don't do it, there w...more
...'t need any extrinsic motivation, I will do it because I know that every time I take the garbage out, I'm serving such and so purpose. If there is no purpose you will need to force me and you don't force me with the gun these days, mostly you force me with: "You don't do it, there won't be a job for you."...more
...riteria, so that not everything is for everyone. For example, I've seen many groups collapse, because you include someone that isn't aligned with the purpose or values or norms of the group to such an extent that every meeting becomes a nightmare. And there will always be some people who will want to conti...more
... it anymore. So that's already not perfect inclusion, you've tried to include this person and these other people who were completely aligned with the purpose and values of the of the group, they are leaving. So it's a very hard one for people to think about. And still, I think it's necessary and that we do...more
... key is, it needs to grapple with it rather than imagine or pretend that because we're nice people and we have shared values, and we have such a cool purpose, we don't have to look at it. So I think of exclusion criteria as being part of what I call a conflict engagement system. So it's one of five core sy...more
...n it the piece about conflict escalation. When conflict is not contained, and it continues to escalate, under what conditions, in what ways, for what purpose? How do you mitigate for consequences? How do you do it with as much love as possible? All of these things, every group needs to work out. That's not...more

Keith McCandless and Henri Lipmanowicz on acting your way into a new kind of organising with Liberating Structures

... going to do for you? And made us also appreciate the fact that because we had this range, and that each of these structures was serving a particular purpose, when you start putting them together individually, and then start connecting them together, that you could address just about any situation. Keith ...more
...ence regularly. And that is that if you use the structure properly, you have to start with clarifying what it is that you're trying to do. What's the purpose? What's the purpose for the community? What are we trying to accomplish here? And that work very often is never done, when people work together. It's...more
...that is that if you use the structure properly, you have to start with clarifying what it is that you're trying to do. What's the purpose? What's the purpose for the community? What are we trying to accomplish here? And that work very often is never done, when people work together. It's sort of assumed or ...more
... is never done, when people work together. It's sort of assumed or it is something that is not specified or it is expressed in terms of you know, the purpose of some portion of the community, you know, or some individual that kind of thing it's - so that's that is a big thing, you know. Having done that y...more
... second difference is, it's this cycle that we start with, there's six questions. It's easier to read about than talk about maybe. But it starts with purpose - what's the deepest need you serve? Why is your work important? Once you've answered that, and answered it well, we've started to also be clear abou...more
...ying meetings? Keith McCandless: It's just easy to do that, it's over. No one needs to do that any longer. So in a strategy session, you get clear on purpose then you ask - what's critical and uncertain about the environment in which you are? So Critical Uncertainties, a really lovely, really simple Libera...more
... To me, the first one is that if you do strategy, using a Liberating Structure, you are going to sweat, or not sweat, depending on how clear it is on purpose to start with. And the probability that something will come that either existed but nobody was paying any attention to it, or something will come tha...more
...y puts you on a very different track. So even if you didn't do anything else, you already have changed your strategy. If you're going to address that purpose that is going to come out of those conversations that need to happen, and conversations that are sufficiently inclusive. That it is not, you know, th...more
...ge don't know what to do or how to do it. Because if they knew, they would have been doing it. And so one of the reasons why, when you come up with a purpose that is really powerful and surprising - to some extent - the reason why this is not really the focus is because people don't know how to do it. And ...more

Jorge Silva on horizontal structures and participatory culture at 10Pines

...doing some kind of work...to help others have a healthy environment and a healthy job. And in order to do that, I think that this is aligned with our purpose too. So we...had like a year working on that. And it's really recent, yes, but it's interesting to help others to have an environment that works....more
...s of scaling positions in a hierarchy. So one of the challenges is to work around that, and know how to deal with that. And I'm starting to move to a purpose-driven company, where you try to help people to find their purpose and to achieve that purpose. And help them in the company to get that purpose. And...more
...to work around that, and know how to deal with that. And I'm starting to move to a purpose-driven company, where you try to help people to find their purpose and to achieve that purpose. And help them in the company to get that purpose. And sometimes it's going to be, to grow - whatever that means. And som...more
...w how to deal with that. And I'm starting to move to a purpose-driven company, where you try to help people to find their purpose and to achieve that purpose. And help them in the company to get that purpose. And sometimes it's going to be, to grow - whatever that means. And sometimes it will be to, I don'...more
...to a purpose-driven company, where you try to help people to find their purpose and to achieve that purpose. And help them in the company to get that purpose. And sometimes it's going to be, to grow - whatever that means. And sometimes it will be to, I don't know, to be a great developer and a great father...more
...d a way to make them happy at work. So maybe happy sounds too hippie. But yeah, I think that instead of talking about happiness, I like to talk about purpose and to find their purpose and to achieve that purpose. And I think this is the way that people are going to stay in the company and feel part of that...more
... at work. So maybe happy sounds too hippie. But yeah, I think that instead of talking about happiness, I like to talk about purpose and to find their purpose and to achieve that purpose. And I think this is the way that people are going to stay in the company and feel part of that....more
...nds too hippie. But yeah, I think that instead of talking about happiness, I like to talk about purpose and to find their purpose and to achieve that purpose. And I think this is the way that people are going to stay in the company and feel part of that....more

Lisa Gill and Mark Eddleston celebrate 50 episodes of Leadermorphosis

...to feel what it actually takes to becoming a 'teal' organisation, or really embracing those threads of wholeness and self-management and evolutionary purpose. And I think I really liked the way that Edwin Jansen from Fitzii framed it, where he said that at Fitzii they've been four years into their 'teal jo...more
...illiant example of how to live that wholeness principle. But also, yeah, I think it was a reminder to me that we need to be human, that we need to be purpose-driven from a personal perspective, and the difference that that makes. So I remember that one being a turning point for me in terms of the podcast. ...more
...eally interested to see how things develop in terms of governance and the legal structures of companies, because I think those are really not fit for purpose. And at the moment, a lot of organisations are having to kind of bend and have create these work arounds in order to fit into those structures or if ...more
...ey're not designed for these kinds of organisations. So I really hope that there'll be the next wave of this movement will be developing more fit for purpose, structures and ways of setting up as enterprises and organisations that serve us much better....more
...t I know that there are some cool things going on about how you can set up governance structures from the beginning so that almost like the company's purpose is boss, and everything is about filling that rather than accumulating wealth for a few people. And I know that people like Matt Perez, who's one of ...more
... book. And he has some really wonderful questions for people to reflect on, particularly if you're a founder or a leader around: what's your personal purpose? Why is this interesting and important to you? And I also think if you aren't someone who has decision-making power, if you're in the middle of an or...more
...t we need to do to remain competitive" or, "this seems to be the latest trend" or whatever - I find that people connect with a very personal sense of purpose and a kind of compelling vision of like: "This is just my hunch, I think it could be interesting to explore. What do you think?" - and find some fell...more
...o start, that's something you could do where you could just propose in your next meeting, like: "I wanted to try something, just for 15 minutes - the purpose is this - I think it might be interesting to see if it's useful, if it's valuable. Is everyone okay if we try this?", and then just try it. And the t...more

Frederic Laloux with an invitation to reclaim integrity and aliveness

...ecided we’d like to dig into is this: Thinking about these three ideas that you wrote about in your book (self-management, wholeness and evolutionary purpose), are these intentions going to help us have the difficult conversations that we need to have about the fact that we are participating in an increasi...more
... chosen it. We haven’t designed it. But I think that if we want to be real on wholeness, and if we want to be real around serving a real evolutionary purpose, let’s look at these things. Let’s have the courage to, to look at them. And I believe that while at first these might be hard conversations to have...more
...n act out of habit or default… but when we act out of choice, we’re more powerful in relation to everything really. F Laloux: And plus, it makes our purpose so much bigger and so much more interesting, right? So many organisations, let’s be honest, don’t have a super exciting purpose. Like you’re making t...more
...nd plus, it makes our purpose so much bigger and so much more interesting, right? So many organisations, let’s be honest, don’t have a super exciting purpose. Like you’re making this car component. Yeah, ultimately it’s a product that helps mobility and helps people to see their friends and families and lo...more
.... Yeah, ultimately it’s a product that helps mobility and helps people to see their friends and families and loved ones or go to work. So it’s a good purpose. Certainly, if it’s hopefully not a polluting car. It’s an electric car. And it’s a car that can be recycled at the end of its lifecycle. But, ultima...more
...sitting with the discomfort and being okay with not having an answer. And trusting that some some kind of clarity will come out, some aliveness, some purpose, some integrity on the other side. F Laloux: Yeah, totally. How does this all resonate with you? And I’m curious, is there a place for this in your ...more
...L Gill: And seeing people’s children too. F Laloux: Yeah, yeah, totally. And the purpose side… one of the things that I find interesting is hearing stories of, you know, often you’re not in a space in this area by yourself and you have a ...more

Beetroot’s founders on purpose, self-management, and shocking people with trust

... of why these two Swedes decided to set up this company and why the Ukraine. So, can you say something about how you started the company and what the purpose or vision is? Andreas Flodström: I guess I can start as I'm Andreas, and I think this story of Beetroot started back in university - me and Gustav we...more
...e a common, bigger vision that you work for. And what we concluded with our team, with going through these workshops and so on, was defining that the purpose of this organisation or this ecosystem, you could call it (because it's actually Beetroot and Beetroot Academy and so on, it's different organisation...more
...elf-management journey; what are the things that have worked well and what are the things that are still really challenging in terms of balancing the purpose of the organisation and also this way of working that you want to adopt? Gustav Henman: One thing is I mentioned about these big, strategy workshops ...more
...ave been working in previously. And one of the things that you could experience is that, well, you have a lot of trust and you usually have a defined purpose of your role in relation to the big picture, but you usually end up in: "Well, it's up to you how you want to achieve the goals of your role". And th...more
...nd you get a list of things that you're supposed to do. So in a sense, sometimes you have this situation where people are sort of searching for their purpose in the organisation, which in some cases falls out very well, and for some people in some situations, it's not always easy to find that purpose in a ...more
...their purpose in the organisation, which in some cases falls out very well, and for some people in some situations, it's not always easy to find that purpose in a way....more
...structural changes, or whatever you want to do. Andreas Flodström: One more thing would be to not relate to this as some kind of religion. It's not a purpose by itself to always follow a textbook, if it's not a business school textbook, then it might be Reinventing Organisations or whatever, but it's not a...more

Nand Kishore Chaudhary from Jaipur Rugs on love, collective consciousness and self-management

...e the name of our HR department. We renamed it to 'Search for the divine soul'. We decided that we shall only hire people who are highly sensible and purpose-driven. People who don't require to be managed, people with empathy, creativity, and who are driven by love, passion and not by fear. To develop resp...more
...n't. And this will transform the business around the world. Jaipur Rugs has become a business ashram, a place for the people to find their clarity of purpose and to gain higher consciousness....more
...ght? So what advice would you give to people who are listening? Who, like you, are interested in introducing self-management principles to fulfil the purpose of their organisation even more strongly? What advice would you give them in terms of what you're learning so far? NK Chaudhary: Find yourself throug...more
...u that after COVID, in the last five months, I have taken on more than 50 people who are searching for the direction of their life, searching for the purpose of their life. And I'm getting more and more requests from candidates who are searching for consciousness. And I also feel that, now the whole world ...more
...sation, is there anything else you'd like to share with listeners? NK Chaudhary: I'm really happy that when I started this business 42 years ago, the purpose of starting this business was: to know myself, who am I? And I thought I did not need to go to a temple or to the Himalayas to practice religion, I w...more
...ut I answered late, and in the morning again he called me. And I asked him "Why are you calling, what is the problem?" And he says "I'm searching the purpose of my life. And somebody died in my family. So for the last 10 days, I've been realising that what you are talking about in business is true. So I'm ...more

Edwin Jansen on how people adopt self-management at Fitzii
...ll your time on all this HR stuff." And so I had read Jim Collins' 'Good to Great' and his books and I was all about trying to understand: what's the purpose of our organisation? What are our values? And how do we create a feedback of culture and learning and development? And so I spent a lot of time doing...more
...ad 'Reinventing Organisations', I realised you can't push values onto people, you can't force values onto people, you can't just because you put your purpose on the wall, and try to hire people who say they care about that, that doesn't mean that that's actually the purpose of your organisation. And after ...more
... can't just because you put your purpose on the wall, and try to hire people who say they care about that, that doesn't mean that that's actually the purpose of your organisation. And after moving into Teal, I had extremely high expectations for what this could mean to our little organisation, because I ha...more

Ruth, Taryn and Philippa from Mayden, a health tech company that’s Made Without Managers

...at we're as flat as we can be. But being a limited company, we have a governing body, which is our board of directors. And so they are there within a purpose and have value there, just in the governance side of things. But also, a lot of what we do is through collaboration and around discussing with staff ...more
... have to find your own way, but don't travel alone. So by that I mean, every organisation is completely unique. The people that worked within it, the purpose of that organisation, their starting point. So it's really homing in on listening to the people that you have on your journey, and tapping into their...more

Pasteur Byabeza on transitioning to self-management at Davis College

...lleagues accountable, you can even help resolve conflicts. Everybody knows that these ideas can bring about something new, or contribute to achieving purpose for the team - they belong to all the institution at large....more
...scribe it from having almost two jobs - my actual job, and my job of looking good or pleasing my manager - towards my job being about fulfilling the purpose of my role in the organisation and being much more connected to that. Pasteur Byabeza: Yes, that's true. You feel like all that matters to you is the...more

Michael Y. Lee on lessons from researching self-managing organisations

...ment because it's the latest trend or they want to be competitive or whatever, and then it kind of becomes about self-management instead of about the purpose of the organisation, and using whatever management system best helps you meet that purpose. So, yeah, I think that's interesting. And yeah, and it's ...more
...kind of becomes about self-management instead of about the purpose of the organisation, and using whatever management system best helps you meet that purpose. So, yeah, I think that's interesting. And yeah, and it's also interesting and something that I've been wondering about; the different contexts in wh...more

Anna Elgh on self-managing teams and shifting conflicts at Svenska Retursystem

...hought this was really a challenge and also a situation where I thought that I could really add some good things to the company. So really, the main purpose of this journey was to create better conditions for everybody to engage in the development of the company and that everybody could feel free to take ...more

Bill Fischer and Simone Cicero on Haier and the entrepreneurial organisation

...ure and Chinese culture, if we can really achieve it, you know, this sweet spot of these two cultures, trying to think about the organisation and the purpose of the organisation of today in the modern world…then that is going to provide us as with a sweet spot for really understanding what the organisation...more

Amy Edmondson on psychological safety and the future of work

...int out, is the zone where you feel both very motivated to do a good job — and that means you probably care; maybe you care about the end result, the purpose of it, maybe you care about just your own sense of mastery, but you really feel engaged and motivated by the work and by the goal — and you feel that...more

Alanna Irving on leadership, decisions and money in bossless organisations

... in environments like this - that are much more decentralized and people are very passionate about it. It's experimental, and it's exciting, and it's purpose led. So it's much easier, I think. I can remember talking to some of the nurses from Buurtzorg and one of the challenges there is that people love t...more

Margaret Wheatley on leadership and Warriors for the Human Spirit

...e ourselves in order to serve more effectively as leaders. And a lot of people are just focused on, 'well, I'm just going to change myself'. My whole purpose of being right now is to create leaders who can stay, leaders who can stay present, leaders who are not overwhelmed by anger and aggression and frust...more

Aaron Dignan on being complexity conscious and people positive

...d and motivated and wanting to learn and grow, wanting to take responsibility, seeking out opportunities to learn, feeling like mastery, autonomy and purpose are really at the centre of what moves us - as opposed to the kind of other theory which is the determinist behaviourist, we're all rats in a box tha...more