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Peter Koenig on source, money and consciousness

...'ll just start and if you want to break in anywhere, just please break in because I can talk for hours about this. But as you know, I've been running money seminars for more than 30 years about the relationship to money and almost in every single seminar that I've had, I've always had people who have tho...more
... break in because I can talk for hours about this. But as you know, I've been running money seminars for more than 30 years about the relationship to money and almost in every single seminar that I've had, I've always had people who have thought about doing things for the future; starting projects, initi...more
...nitiatives or companies or something they want to do in the future but don't think they can really start now. And very often they come and say in the money seminar, "I need to get some money and finance together first and then I can start to do really what I want to do in my life or my initiative project...more
...g they want to do in the future but don't think they can really start now. And very often they come and say in the money seminar, "I need to get some money and finance together first and then I can start to do really what I want to do in my life or my initiative project, start a company or association", ...more
...what I want to do in my life or my initiative project, start a company or association", whatever. So, for many, many years, I was always saying in my money seminars, yes, but nobody ever starts any kind of initiative with money. Because that had been my own experience and I'd heard so many stories of peo...more
...r association", whatever. So, for many, many years, I was always saying in my money seminars, yes, but nobody ever starts any kind of initiative with money. Because that had been my own experience and I'd heard so many stories of people who'd started things, and they never started with money, they always...more
...tiative with money. Because that had been my own experience and I'd heard so many stories of people who'd started things, and they never started with money, they always started with an idea which they were passionate about. And then if it started working the resources, including money, (but not just mone...more
... never started with money, they always started with an idea which they were passionate about. And then if it started working the resources, including money, (but not just money) would seem to follow, not to lead. And I referred to this person who starts something as 'a source', because I'd learned that ...more
...oney, they always started with an idea which they were passionate about. And then if it started working the resources, including money, (but not just money) would seem to follow, not to lead. And I referred to this person who starts something as 'a source', because I'd learned that from one of my partne...more
...but doesn't like somebody else being in control of something else and it's making decision-making very long and costly, energetically as well as with money and everything else, time. And bumping up against that limitation all the time, until somebody is actually developing more, gets fed up with it all a...more
...hat are criticised and the greens are the criticising. These egotists who want to have a nice Porsche or a Ferrari say "Now I want to have a bit more money and I'm really fed up with this. I've done that bit". So they come on to being egotistical and it's actually not bad at all but it's not the end of t...more
...Lisa Gill: It strikes me that I think about what Yuval Noah Harare says about stories that a lot of things that we assume are things like companies, money, these are all stories that we collect and believe in, and I think if you look at organisations through that lens, the source work makes a lot of sen...more
...t's needed from those of us as sources? Peter Koenig: Well, your question leads me directly into what I've been calling for now a good 30 years to my money work. So it started to go called that and still is that because it has to do with your relationship to money and advancing yourself. It started with ...more
...en calling for now a good 30 years to my money work. So it started to go called that and still is that because it has to do with your relationship to money and advancing yourself. It started with questions on my own relationship to my money and other people's relationship to their money, and how one can ...more
...and still is that because it has to do with your relationship to money and advancing yourself. It started with questions on my own relationship to my money and other people's relationship to their money, and how one can change your relationship to money to start off with. And it turned out to be what I w...more
...r relationship to money and advancing yourself. It started with questions on my own relationship to my money and other people's relationship to their money, and how one can change your relationship to money to start off with. And it turned out to be what I would now call 'consciousness work' and related ...more
...started with questions on my own relationship to my money and other people's relationship to their money, and how one can change your relationship to money to start off with. And it turned out to be what I would now call 'consciousness work' and related to your identity. So if you want to develop and bec...more
...a part of me that is also Donald Trump and I love being Donald Trump. So it's like reclaiming these parts to ourselves one by one, as this is how my money work works. We use money to look at the parts that we're dissociating from ourselves. Money turns out to be an extremely efficient way of developing ...more
... Donald Trump and I love being Donald Trump. So it's like reclaiming these parts to ourselves one by one, as this is how my money work works. We use money to look at the parts that we're dissociating from ourselves. Money turns out to be an extremely efficient way of developing our consciousness in this...more
...ng these parts to ourselves one by one, as this is how my money work works. We use money to look at the parts that we're dissociating from ourselves. Money turns out to be an extremely efficient way of developing our consciousness in this kind of way, reclaiming parts to ourselves and as we do that, this...more
... about it and check in with is that what we want? Is that in service of my purpose or our purpose together or not? And in terms of talking about the money work, I think there is great potential there and I think it is a learning edge for people exploring new ways of working to really interrogate our rel...more
...k there is great potential there and I think it is a learning edge for people exploring new ways of working to really interrogate our relationship to money. So I guess, on that front, in terms of the potential for teams, to reinvent how they do salaries, for example, or how they distribute money, I'm won...more
...nship to money. So I guess, on that front, in terms of the potential for teams, to reinvent how they do salaries, for example, or how they distribute money, I'm wondering if you could share, what are some of the lessons or insights that you've gained from the money work that you could share with people w...more
...es, for example, or how they distribute money, I'm wondering if you could share, what are some of the lessons or insights that you've gained from the money work that you could share with people who are curious or interested to reinvent how money is distributed in their team or organisation? Peter Koenig:...more
...some of the lessons or insights that you've gained from the money work that you could share with people who are curious or interested to reinvent how money is distributed in their team or organisation? Peter Koenig: Well, that's a difficult question to answer just like that in terms of lessons and insigh...more
...ng development work. And it's almost like an accelerated consciousness process. So it's good for people who would want to do something different with money, to know that from the start because there's no guarantee in advance how things are going to come out if you put people into this. And the relationsh...more
...now that from the start because there's no guarantee in advance how things are going to come out if you put people into this. And the relationship to money is incredibly important in terms of answering the big questions that we have globally, right now, because the relationship to money flows through jus...more
...e relationship to money is incredibly important in terms of answering the big questions that we have globally, right now, because the relationship to money flows through just about every aspect of life that you can imagine. So if you want to develop yourself in all the other fields like nutrition and hea...more
...elf in all the other fields like nutrition and health and you do meditation and yoga and God knows what, but you stay fixed with your relationship to money and think that that's got nothing to do with your spirituality and so forth, you're way off the wrong path, you're way off actually. So at some point...more
...tuality and so forth, you're way off the wrong path, you're way off actually. So at some point, it needs to be integrated within your relationship to money and work and life needs to be integrated with everything else that you're doing because it's all one. And opening up this very taboo subject is not a...more
... we wouldn't want to look at at all. I won't explain it now but I can explain why we have deposited our deepest shadow aspects in our relationship to money. And there's like a cycle, a vicious circle cycle which, when you open it up, when you open up the subject, you're opening up a bag of worms in a sen...more
...en it up to other people in your organisation. So that's what I would give as input to somebody looking at it. I've had business leaders come into my money seminars, from large organisations, and originally, rather naively, I thought, the next step is they'll be bringing this work into their companies an...more
...itioners at the moment to be ready for this. And things are moving forward and more and more training, getting more and more practitioners doing this money work. What I described before is like reclaiming projections, reclamation, with more and more are doing this work, and it's going in a good direction...more
...ion. And timing, (I don't know how long things take, I'm very bad at timing), but I encourage everybody who feels ready to come and do this work with money to get into it as soon as they feel ready, really, because it is transformative....more
...Lisa Gill: Yeah, that's really interesting. And it's good what you say because I think I can get a bit excited about the money work and like, "oh, all teams should do this". But I think what you're saying, it needs to start with self and it's very personal inner work, and the...more
...nterested in exploring these new ways of working and self-management and all of this stuff. I think many of us in the green world have stories about money such as, money is dirty or bad, and organisations can have a tendency to push money away. And I think the opportunity is for us all to, (and you know...more
...ploring these new ways of working and self-management and all of this stuff. I think many of us in the green world have stories about money such as, money is dirty or bad, and organisations can have a tendency to push money away. And I think the opportunity is for us all to, (and you know, I'm on this j...more
...s stuff. I think many of us in the green world have stories about money such as, money is dirty or bad, and organisations can have a tendency to push money away. And I think the opportunity is for us all to, (and you know, I'm on this journey myself, I know I have lots of money stories to blame) but ther...more
...an have a tendency to push money away. And I think the opportunity is for us all to, (and you know, I'm on this journey myself, I know I have lots of money stories to blame) but there's an opportunity to see money as a tool - as something that can be used to help us realise our purpose or not. Peter Koen...more
...ortunity is for us all to, (and you know, I'm on this journey myself, I know I have lots of money stories to blame) but there's an opportunity to see money as a tool - as something that can be used to help us realise our purpose or not. Peter Koenig: Yeah, that's the purpose of this money work actually -...more
...ortunity to see money as a tool - as something that can be used to help us realise our purpose or not. Peter Koenig: Yeah, that's the purpose of this money work actually - to do precisely that, to have money be the facilitator that it was originally invented to be. Because if you look at the role it's pl...more
...can be used to help us realise our purpose or not. Peter Koenig: Yeah, that's the purpose of this money work actually - to do precisely that, to have money be the facilitator that it was originally invented to be. Because if you look at the role it's playing in so many people's lives, now, it's more like...more
... so many people's lives, now, it's more like the obstacle. It's become like the obstacle rather than the facilitator. So that's the work we do in the money work, is to turn it back around and have it become a facilitator for people's lives....more
...ybe they're on their own journey, as a source or doing their own inner work. So, with all of the work that you've done over the years with source and money work and identity work, what would be your advice? What are some tips for the journey that you would share? Peter Koenig: Oh, boy, thanks for the que...more

Buurtzorg and the power of self-managed teams of nurses

...h Sheila joined. And then we were six. And now there are three teams in in Houten. Marian: And what we had to do was look for a location. I spent the money for a location. We found it together and made our home, I think! Yeah, that was nice to do. A lot of fun. And then you have a laptop. And then you st...more
...b she does very well. Marian: We were all thinking: "What can we do for her? What's possible?" Jolanda: It was for two years on our list, and it cost money. Chila: She was also depressive and so it was quite complicated. But we have our team coach. If it's too complicated for us and you don't know what t...more
... them? Chila: Production is a challenge. Lisa Gill: In what way? What do you mean by production? Chila: You have to have enough clients to get enough money. Because only clients generate money. But if you work in your office, or you're sick or on holiday, it's unproductive time, and there's no money for ...more
...ge. Lisa Gill: In what way? What do you mean by production? Chila: You have to have enough clients to get enough money. Because only clients generate money. But if you work in your office, or you're sick or on holiday, it's unproductive time, and there's no money for the company. Lisa Gill: Ah, like prod...more
...ough money. Because only clients generate money. But if you work in your office, or you're sick or on holiday, it's unproductive time, and there's no money for the company. Lisa Gill: Ah, like productivity. Chila: Yeah. So that's always a challenge, because you have the holidays, and you have to go to co...more
...special lady who oversaw projects. There were 100 projects from all over the country that you could sign in, if you had a good idea, and you got some money to try to develop it. So we have a walker race. You know, people who walk with [walking aids]? We have a race in Amsterdam in the Olympic Stadium eve...more

Bill Fischer and Simone Cicero on Haier and the entrepreneurial organisation

...at this is the most important thing for him. It’s really about knowing about the work of others, and engaging with ideas. He’s not there to make more money or to exercise more power. When you’re there it feels like you should be there reading books, instead of managing a company. So, I think this kind o...more
...eate an enterprise. And then when you decide, your basic income is really basic — so you need to be entrepreneurial to really have a decent amount of money, but you can get more you know…because if you are really at the printer, you can make lots of money. So, you can be a kind of architect, a certain ki...more
...entrepreneurial to really have a decent amount of money, but you can get more you know…because if you are really at the printer, you can make lots of money. So, you can be a kind of architect, a certain kind of attraction for the participants in your organisation — you kind of create the culture by desig...more

Jorge Silva on horizontal structures and participatory culture at 10Pines

...ok management, where everyone knows all the numbers of the company, all the other financial numbers of the company - in terms of income, and how much money we pay for the office, and even how much we're spending on salaries. So everyone knows the salary of everyone. And this is interesting, too, because...more
...that they know something, they know things that you don't know, and you have to understand your position - and not because you are a boss or you have money or you have whatever - you are in a position of knowing everything and knowing what the other has to do. And I think that you have to trust and be hu...more
...st suitable medical insurance for them, and that they are not going to abuse that decision. And it was the best decision because people start to save money and to be really critical on what medical insurance to have. So when you invert control to the people around you and give the responsibility to them,...more

Miki Kashtan on the three shifts needed for self-managing organisations to thrive

... to where need exists. And that creates a fundamental sense of precariousness for most humans on the planet, which isn't how it was before. Exchange, money, debt, interest, markets –before all of those were introduced, there wasn't that kind of precariousness that people lived in. So fundamentally, our ...more
... for a few individuals. That is their purpose. And that purpose has nothing inspiring about it, except possibly for the person who's going to get the money, but even then, I don't actually think it's inspiring. It's not life giving. I mean, there's a whole other, you know, sub thread about that claim of ...more
...ystem, you need to work out, especially if the sum total of how people want to use the resources that are within the organisation – which is not just money, it's human power, it's machinery, it's everything that is there – if the sum total of how people want to use it exceeds the sum total of the resourc...more

Frederic Laloux with an invitation to reclaim integrity and aliveness

...ould be actually more fun to work for, or maybe you’ll start something up with your sister, or your brother in law, or maybe some of them have enough money anyway. And what we realised is that all of the fears were ego fears. It was that they would be seen as a failure in their circles of CEOs, they wou...more
...round the looming environmental climate collapse, and they were so shocked by that book that they decided: “Yeah, we want to change our lives… Making money in Silicon Valley is no longer interesting to us.” And so they came to spend some time with us in our eco village. And so fellow Belgians, you know, ...more

Lisa Gill and Mark Eddleston celebrate 50 episodes of Leadermorphosis

...hink I mentioned in the Skeena episode that I started out asking quite technical questions; How do you make decisions? How do you do salaries? How is money distributed? And I was beginning to become interested in the more human relationship dynamics, but I think that's become much more my focus and I thi...more
...hat they've been transported into the online meeting space. And also things like how we distribute resources, like salaries and things like that, and money, and if you have transparent finances, people are much more responsible and able to together, decide how do we make tough decisions together? There's...more

Edwin Jansen on how people adopt self-management at Fitzii

...t people think that they're going to have don't materialise, like, if people can set their own salaries, they're all going to pay themselves all this money. And it's actually the opposite is true: people pay themselves less than they would have asked for from their manager. And so the difficult thing is ...more
...'m worth in the market, what my replacement costs would be, what people perceive to be my business value impact on the team in the business, how much money I need. There's all these things and then at the end of the day, you need to prioritise one or two of them over the others and pick a number and tell...more

Pasteur Byabeza on transitioning to self-management at Davis College

...y have a lot of interest in having their orders strictly obeyed and accepted by their subordinates. So in a tiered organisation, you know, there's no money for you to see. So I've noticed - when people in an organisation are accustomed to receiving orders and instructions about what to do from their mana...more

Nand Kishore Chaudhary from Jaipur Rugs on love, collective consciousness and self-management

...ference, which I see in myself, is a great satisfaction for me. If somebody asked me, "Mr. Chaudhary, you have earned a name, you have earned so much money, what is your next step?" I will only answer: to lose myself. Because the more I lose my identity, the more I'll be a satisfied person. I can create ...more

Beetroot’s founders on purpose, self-management, and shocking people with trust

...but which is built to be long-term financially self-sustainable, although we're scaling it up and building the product and so on with help from grant money; we are supported by for example, Sweden, Estonia, USAID and UNDP for doing that. And at this point we are Beetroot Academies running in 16 different...more