Mindset

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Aaron Dignan on being complexity conscious and people positive

...n organisation, and all these different kinds of grand theories about how we work. And they each have their own lexicon and their own principles, and mindsets. And I felt like it's too much to bear, when I made a list of them. I mean, you can easily write down 48 or 50 principles that suddenly become overwh...more
...bout what do we believe about the world at large and how it works. And if you connected all the dots, you ended up with these two kind of fundamental mindsets from which everything else can spring. And so people positive was the first. It's sort of aligned with self- determination theory and a lot of other...more
...n, we're going to do this new org chart, we're going to introduce this new policy and everything will be perfect. And so complexity conscious is the mindset that says - the world is dynamic, it's unpredictable, we're moving fast. And in fact, we're also, you know, people in a system inside that world. And...more
...nds. Those are all the ways to try to deal with that complexity. And try to make sense of it. So I think that those were really the two foundational mindsets. And if you look at them, they can actually be in tension with each other. Which is really cool. So the complexity conscious mindset might lead us to...more
...wo foundational mindsets. And if you look at them, they can actually be in tension with each other. Which is really cool. So the complexity conscious mindset might lead us to do experiments that have real costs - experiments where people fail, where people have to be fired, or where people lose their jobs ...more
...this in this balance in this harmony. So that was a that was really an exciting point when I was writing the book - where I was like, okay, okay, two mindsets. We can do that - like people can remember that they can understand that. Lisa Gill: Yes, I think they're very catchy. It helps that it's alliterated...more
...bout this before (in the reading community and in various other places), but I have this interest in human skills and how we relate to each other and mindsets. How do all of these things need to shift and what do we need to learn and unlearn in order for these new kinds of principles and practices to really...more
... it's very difficult to coach 300,000 people. So, that's quite an ambitious undertaking to say that you're going to actively intervene and change the mindsets of 300,000 people on a one-to-one basis. That's hard. On top of that, there have been some arguments put forward that I think might carry some weigh...more
...eight. And these say that it might be like colonialism, right? Like, it might actually be dangerous for us to say, 'we know better than you what your mindset should be'. So we're going to come in, and we're going to actually change your mindset - we're going to change the way you think and what you value a...more
...be dangerous for us to say, 'we know better than you what your mindset should be'. So we're going to come in, and we're going to actually change your mindset - we're going to change the way you think and what you value and how you show up. And obviously, you know, good coaches don't do that - they particip...more
...hink from our perspective, if we can change things in the system that affect everyone at scale - that start new patterns, that reinforce the kinds of mindsets and identities that we want as a collective, that we all believe are going to serve us better, then they can pave the way for that personal developme...more
..., what's present for you right now that you can step into and what's the adjacent possible that is just one adjustment away? If we can align on those mindsets, if we can align on a belief in people positivity and complexity consciousness, if we can have a principled take on what work should be, then it's re...more
...hat we've tangled? And how do we find our way to new things, and that's going to be a journey that goes on forever. So, to me, I would spend time on mindset, I would spend time on theory and discussion of the nature of work and the nature of people, I would try things, start small and learn by doing. So t...more

Beetroot’s founders on purpose, self-management, and shocking people with trust

...reasons and both spent some time in both Russia and Lithuania and eastern Europe and so on. And we quite quickly understood that we have some similar mindset and similar vision of building up some kind of company in eastern Europe, which has a good social impact. From the beginning we didn't even know in ...more
...hard factors, like how much you affect the economy, individuals, and so on, but also sort of soft factors where you more look at how do we affect the mindset, or how does the organisation affect the mindset of the people who work in the organisation, partners, and anyone basically you get in connection to?...more
...y, individuals, and so on, but also sort of soft factors where you more look at how do we affect the mindset, or how does the organisation affect the mindset of the people who work in the organisation, partners, and anyone basically you get in connection to? So we have taken that role, you could say, where...more
...unt of trust I got when I joined Beetroot" and that's a good sign when people say that, because what we have experienced, and I mean, the traditional mindset, is that people give people a lot of trust and see what happens, you take a lot of risks; that people will not do what they should do and so on. But...more
...this is something that came up as a local opportunity. And then we switched on our support functions with the organisation to help. So that's how the mindset is built to work; I take an initiative, I have an I.D, but I'm not alone. I'm not like as the lonely sailor. I have a support team who can switch on ...more
...nd so on - that's what you have to go through to be able to work. So it's almost you can compare this old paradigm to the new - like comparing Soviet mindset with the new, Ukraine mindset or something like that. I don't know if that was clear....more
...e to go through to be able to work. So it's almost you can compare this old paradigm to the new - like comparing Soviet mindset with the new, Ukraine mindset or something like that. I don't know if that was clear....more
...nk to talk about personally for me, one of the hardest thing is sometimes I just want to jump in and do other people's job. I'm very impatient and my mindset is usually set on that everything is very doable, which means that my allergies is also when I feel that you experience this mindset of: "Things are ...more
...impatient and my mindset is usually set on that everything is very doable, which means that my allergies is also when I feel that you experience this mindset of: "Things are impossible, we can't do this because..." and then I'm like: "Of course we can do it!" And to be with that sort of personalities that ...more
...m: And talking about challenges, maybe more of an organisation challenge than a personal one, but when we are growing quickly, we're working with the mindset as the base point, and so on but sometimes things feels messy, and then sometimes you get these sort of calls from people in the organisation who go ...more

Miki Kashtan on the three shifts needed for self-managing organisations to thrive

...the systems that we're operating in, in order to collaborate in a self managing way. So it's a really deep conversation about navigating power, about mindset shifts, new levels of dialogue and self awareness. It's kind of impossible to do it justice in a summary, really. But Miki talks with such intentiona...more
...n individual basis, changing it from below is the highest skill level necessary – to be able to collaborate with someone who isn't in a collaborative mindset, and also has power in relation to you. That is the biggest deal, that is where nonviolence really gets tested. So they're internal changes. There ar...more
...managers. So, beyond structures and and systems, what are the sort of human shifts that need to happen? What can I do as a human being to develop the mindset, the skills, the abilities needed to collaborate in in a more self managing way? Miki Kashtan: I'll start with telling you a story. And through that ...more
...es, we worked out a decision that everyone said, "Yeah, that works. I can I can deal with that." So some of the principles there. The main one is the mindset shift from "what do I believe is the best thing to do" to "what is most likely to work for everyone". And it is literally something that changes peop...more
...ion that works for everyone, because you look at it from above. And so you're looking for something that can see the whole. So a fundamental shift in mindset is from me to we, and all of us have that capacity. It's there. It's built into our evolutionary design. Because we evolved, as far as I understand t...more
...pacity is still within us. It's just atrophied. So we don't remember to do it. But when asked, almost invariably, people can do it. So that's one key mindset shift is: what will work for everyone. And we tend to polarise. If I want something and you want something else, it's like, "Oh, my God. And it's lik...more
...win, but she came up with the idea of an integrative solution, as opposed to domination or compromise integration. So those are those are some of the mindset changes. And the shift in terms of skill. It's about learning dialogue skills. And in particular, I can give two principles. The first one is: how t...more

Bernadette Wesley on bridging inner and outer transformation

... they work around the SDGs. And I prefer to work with organisations who are obviously moving in a direction of doing generative practices. So the SDG mindset and framework is there. And many of these organisations were not aware of the IDGs - it is fairly new. So the entrance point is just bringing it into...more
...nd that internally as human beings, the call is not just to keep up - I have to develop, I have to grow. But it's more about integrating the learning mindset in everything that we do so that we can have an unpredicted outcome. In other words, that's what exponential kind of offers us - this nonlinear curve...more
...we'll do those things, but don't bring them back'. Even if the goal was to bring it back, you bring it back and the problem is this business as usual mindset, this program of industrialised work is so strong, that even with the best of intentions, we're going to fall back into those patterns - they're deep...more
... show up as your best self, you want to go for the promotion. It sounds terrible but you would go for the promotion, make more money and that was the mindset and it still is today in many places. But now that I'm in a purpose-aligned workplace it brings up all of the things like this that are so important ...more
... so then you don't want to jeopardise that by bringing your whole self. So that's part of the model for a DDO is to get out of this business as usual mindset of preserving and enhancing our standing. And covering up our weaknesses. That's the theme. In An Everyone Culture they say that everyone's doing a s...more

Ruth, Taryn and Philippa from Mayden, a health tech company that’s Made Without Managers

...it's just a bit of adjustment over time, which does happen. Taryn Burden: I think that's a conversation I often have with new starters as well around mindset, we recognise this is going to be a mindset shift for you. Because I don't think, as far as I'm aware, I don't think I've ever inducted anyone at May...more
...ch does happen. Taryn Burden: I think that's a conversation I often have with new starters as well around mindset, we recognise this is going to be a mindset shift for you. Because I don't think, as far as I'm aware, I don't think I've ever inducted anyone at Mayden that has worked in an organisation like ...more
...hool or university or in other other job experiences, even in our family structures there is hierarchy. So, it is such a shift for individuals, and a mindset shift to get their head around this, that I don't need to ask permission, I don't need to have somebody tell me what to do, that I can take that init...more
...ve that you say that, because my my main interest when I talk to people on the podcast is always wanting to learn about that process of exploring the mindset shift, and also the kind of human skills shift if you like, as well, like you mentioned conflict and feedback, for example. And you touched a bit on ...more
..., for example, or what has stayed with you? Ruth Waterfield: I think the shorter you can make your feedback loops, the better. In line with the Agile mindset of - don't be afraid to talk about what's not working, figure out something to try, you won't get it perfect, that's okay. Try it and then see what h...more

Nand Kishore Chaudhary from Jaipur Rugs on love, collective consciousness and self-management

...gs is connected with 40,000 artesans in 600 villages in India, and all these women are working from their own home. We work with them to change their mindset and bring heart to heart connection with each other. The carpet industry is one of the most unorganised sectors and is still largely dependent on con...more
...is it unusual? Or did people find it valuable pretty quickly? NK Chaudhary: It depends on the people. There are so many people who have got the fixed mindset. And it is very difficult to make them realise. But I think as I told you the people who are like the child while innocent, then they take my advice ...more
...an then further become the ambassadors of the same in our organisation. The second is: to create the right and relevant training programme to bring a mindset change in the whole organisation. So now we are seeking help from people around the world who have already implemented self-management across their o...more
...s well, that one of the challenges is in the head office, and you've learned a few lessons I think about hiring people and realising that perhaps the mindset change isn't possible or that they're too ingrained. So as you grow as an organisation, how do you think you can keep alive this culture? As new peop...more
...lly make a difference? And do I really have time to be doing all of this?" What do you say to people who are sceptical about the difference that this mindset makes? NK Chaudhary: I want to tell you one thing that since I started with this business... I've been in this business for the last 42 years, and fo...more

Michael Y. Lee on lessons from researching self-managing organisations

... be workable? Michael Y. Lee: I think in self-management, going back again to a theme of some of the previous questions; the skills and abilities and mindsets that are needed for effective self-management are probably no different from the skills, abilities and mindsets needed for effective management in a ...more
...estions; the skills and abilities and mindsets that are needed for effective self-management are probably no different from the skills, abilities and mindsets needed for effective management in a hierarchical structure. I think it's more the issue is that we've become so accepting of mediocre or bad managem...more
...managing structures do is they make those deficiencies more apparent. So they make those individuals who have not developed the abilities, skills and mindsets to effectively manage. It becomes very obvious in a kind of self-managing structure such that it's harder to ignore. And so, I do think effective man...more
...k it's probably not as simple as taking a course and picking up some new skills and tools, (although those can be helpful). It is a different type of mindset, it is seeing things from a different type of perspective, that may take I think, much longer and for which there may not be a very clear blueprint. ...more
...e, but it's a fairly recent management innovation, and there's not a lot of evidence that it is effective. So it's funny, isn't it? The kind of habit mindset and the fear of anything new or alternative. I wanted to talk about as well - because I saw that you do this research about global dispersed teams, ...more

Lisa Gill and Mark Eddleston celebrate 50 episodes of Leadermorphosis

...pace that we work in is maturing, how do you imagine it might be looking over the next year, and particularly with what's going on at the moment? So, mindset's been mentioned, and that's the focus of the episode with Miki Kashtan, (which is really worth a listen). And you mentioned just earlier that often ...more
...at employee ownership in a way that's really holistic, I guess? So not just like on paper, but actually what that means, and really having a co-owner mindset that stems from real, actual kind of co-ownership rather than just something symbolic, if you know what I mean?...more
... about feedback, but there is still an emphasis on development. But that's also really hard to do. So no one has cracked this relational human stuff, mindset stuff - how to be as a leader, how to create that paradox of how to create environments where everyone is powerful, and and yet, at the same time, al...more
...g anyway, so it's like, what have you got to lose? It's worth trying something, isn't it? Do a pilot, experiment with something. I think that's a key mindset shift - it's not about this kind of old way of thinking about change, where you change the whole thing and then freeze it and then change it. It's li...more

Pasteur Byabeza on transitioning to self-management at Davis College

...eans being open and honest with others and ourselves. That's really important, and has really helped us a great deal. Another one is embracing growth mindset. We believe we are a community of lifelong learners - that's how we accept changes, we learn new things, new ways of doing things. See, that's evolut...more
...hanges, we learn new things, new ways of doing things. See, that's evolution, we change. Human beings - we change, we evolve. You know, that's growth mindset. We believe we can learn new ways of doing things and that comes from a culture of embracing growth mindset. Another one is drawing the owl. That's o...more
...hange, we evolve. You know, that's growth mindset. We believe we can learn new ways of doing things and that comes from a culture of embracing growth mindset. Another one is drawing the owl. That's our terminology, but it means getting things done and learning as you go. So those three together have really...more

Frederic Laloux with an invitation to reclaim integrity and aliveness

...L Gill: Yeah, it does resonate with me… My colleagues and I at Tuff we call it a productive or un-productive mindset in relation to what you want. And I also think about this amazing company in Sweden, Björn Lundén, this publishing company and the founder is this am...more
...nd everything has an individual and the collective component. One way of saying it is everything has an internal individual component, my beliefs, my mindsets… And everything has an individual external component — my actions, my behaviours — that you can actually see and measure. An inner collective compone...more
...tures where people tend to default to “Oh, yeah, but you know, we should retrain people or we should sort of have a deep programme to change people’s mindsets.” Maybe another example that comes up often is: people shy away from difficult conversations. So self-managing is working, but people don’t give eac...more

Bill Fischer and Simone Cicero on Haier and the entrepreneurial organisation

...L Gill: Yeah, my bias is that I come from a training background and so I’m always curious about the human, relational aspects and what is the kind of mindset that’s needed for this way of working to thrive, especially if you’re a manager. And often when there’s a transformation an organisation, like Zappos...more
..., for example, to really ‘get’? You know, I’m thinking about what you were saying earlier as well about Taoism and how that’s influenced this kind of mindset, if you like. B Fischer: What I think Haier has done, as it’s moved towards hiring more entrepreneurial workers — and that that didn’t start at the ...more
..., “Let’s think about all the internal reasons we can’t do it before we even begin thinking about the customer”. So I think, you know, a lot of it is mindset, a lot of it is…changing the way in which people prioritise inside/outside, and then what gets adjusted to what. And then, in Qingdao, clearly, peopl...more

Amy Edmondson on psychological safety and the future of work

...as you say, the psychological safety piece for me, is something that’s being talked about less, the less tangible stuff, the interpersonal stuff, the mindset shift or the skills, the human piece, as opposed to the practices, structures, processes. So I think that’s a really valuable dimension to talk about...more
...e responsible for creating this climate of psychological safety, but it’s also about the non-leaders, if I can use that term, stepping up in a way, a mindset shift to seeing themselves as active players in that game… AE: To be the change that you wanna see and realise — and I’m often reminding my sons of ...more
...the coming generation of leaders does recognise that the challenges that lie ahead are huge. So as long as you can get beyond the “It’s all about me” mindset, the writing is on the wall that this is gonna take everything you’ve got. And it’s not all about you, but it is all about others and I think that’s ...more

Alanna Irving on leadership, decisions and money in bossless organisations

...e. It's just huge. And also it's right next to what your values are as a human being - because we are up against this incredibly pervasive capitalist mindset that says we you the monetary value that you can claim. Nothing more, nothing less. Which is, obviously a hugely damaging and narrow way to look at a...more
..., nothing less. Which is, obviously a hugely damaging and narrow way to look at a human being, but is massively influential in our culture and in our mindsets. So I'd say first of all, don't blame yourself if talking about money gives you the heebie jeebies, that's normal and expected. If you're working in...more

Margaret Heffernan on how to act our way out of the status quo trap

... a big takeaway from this conversation already is that the way out of the status quo is not by thinking about it by doing. Which already is kind of a mindset shift. Right? Yes. And it doesn't seem to be a huge one, except the evident resistance to it suggests that it's much harder than it sounds. ...more

Jorge Silva on horizontal structures and participatory culture at 10Pines

...u're organised. I'm wondering what you're learning in terms of - not so much in terms of structures and processes - but in terms of the skills or the mindset that's needed in order to work in this more self-managed way? Jorge Silva: Well, yeah, I think that we were thinking about that a lot. One important ...more

Peter Koenig on source, money and consciousness
...know you've talked about how, in organisations, you can have people who are aware that they are a source, and then people who have a kind of employed mindset; "I'll do the minimum that's required to not get fired or to not get in trouble or do my nine to five, and then I'll go home." And so to me, there's ...more

Margaret Wheatley on leadership and Warriors for the Human Spirit

... are sort of systems like holocracy out there. But I speak to lots of people who feel like there's something missing - the kind of human part and the mindset - I guess, the heart-mind part that you're talking about, that not many people are talking about that or how we can train that. So what are your thou...more