... entrepreneurs, that people who start things, do which isn't written down anywhere, and, I went from thinking of it as a light hypothesis, called it 'source hypothesis' beginning, then after about six times I had this experience, I called them 'principles', maybe, and then after about 12, times, I started...more
...suggesting might even be 'laws', but I thought that was too strong, so I backed down to 'principles'. And I've called them ever since, 'principles' ('source principles') and had now, this experience of this resonance towards them, repeated hundreds of times and in different kinds of iterations. And where ...more
...l pretty simple, actually), but the first one is that for every initiative, for every project, for every enterprise, there is only one person who is 'source' or one founder. And for people who have founded things, this is usually very, very clear. But particularly in recent years, people like the idea ide...more
...challenged and come up with some ideas around it. On the other hand, to my own surprise, when I started having people coming in as co-founders in my source days, more often than not, and by large numbers more often than not, when they call themselves 'co-founders', I would say to them first of all, with ...more
...ve role which comes in the form of an idea, but many people have ideas. And the distinction to make between somebody who has an idea, somebody who is source is that the source is the first person to actually take the risk, to say, "This is going to happen, this is what I'm going to do, and you can join me...more
... in the form of an idea, but many people have ideas. And the distinction to make between somebody who has an idea, somebody who is source is that the source is the first person to actually take the risk, to say, "This is going to happen, this is what I'm going to do, and you can join me, you can come in i...more
...n to the number two, the second and third person, who may have similar ideas, (they'll never be identical), but quite similar ideas, possibly. So the source is the person to receive the vision and then actually take the first step to the realisation. And that involves an investment of oneself and taking a...more
...rol of people, control of structures, control of this strategic planning, the third role is actually managing the boundary of this field. Because the source person, the source needs to decide what's in the field; what's in and what's out, what belongs to the field, what things do I want to see happen with...more
...rol of structures, control of this strategic planning, the third role is actually managing the boundary of this field. Because the source person, the source needs to decide what's in the field; what's in and what's out, what belongs to the field, what things do I want to see happen within the field of inf...more
...eople, I mean, ultimately, customers, but also collaborators, and, and, and... So there are other people involved, and so it's a full time job, for a source to just be doing these three things; to be managing the vision, which is dynamic, because it's not static, to communicate the next steps that need to...more
...m learning more and more, and having spent sort of five days with you in New Zealand just recently as well, is the paradoxical nature of this role of source. And so I remember when I first came across your work, as you described, being challenged, and thinking, hang on a minute, this goes against everythi...more
...organising. And I remember that our mutual friend, Tom Nixon, he had a nice way of putting it that what you're describing, these three roles that the source plays, I think it can conjure up images again of the kind of charismatic leader or the sort of heroic leader, which is a sort of old paradigm now, a ...more
...w, a bit out of date I think. And actually, what Tom said is that it's more of a vulnerable visionary, that there is a lot of humility in the role of source. It's this paradox between being very clear, as you said, and having some kind of creative authority about what's in the field. And yet, at the same ...more
...do it, and so forth. So I love what you're saying. Exactly. It is a paradigm shift and it needs to be, in a sense, this is what we're doing with the source work, we're in training, that we're helping this form of collaboration to emerge. And, as you say, it's a paradox because in a sense we are still enabling...more
...I love Frederick Laloux and his work. And actually, thanks to Tom who you've mentioned, he actually came the first time we met to one of my, I call, 'Source Days'; a day long introduction of source work in Brussels. And then we had the opportunity to meet afterwards. And I asked Frederick Laloux, "In your...more
... actually, thanks to Tom who you've mentioned, he actually came the first time we met to one of my, I call, 'Source Days'; a day long introduction of source work in Brussels. And then we had the opportunity to meet afterwards. And I asked Frederick Laloux, "In your book, you've done nothing else pretty well th...more
...ds. And I asked Frederick Laloux, "In your book, you've done nothing else pretty well than interview, what I call, 'sources'..." And he'd been to the Source Day, so he was able to recognise that they're all founders. If you read through the book, the information is all coming from sources. And I said, "Ho...more
...e, gets fed up with it all and says, "Blow this, I'm fed up with this, it's really not working." And then, what I say, is they start to develop their source, (I like to use the word), developing their strengthened source in another way, but getting clearer in another way. And finally, there's an inner tra...more
... this, it's really not working." And then, what I say, is they start to develop their source, (I like to use the word), developing their strengthened source in another way, but getting clearer in another way. And finally, there's an inner transformation taking place, which will move them up to the next st...more
...come to look at what their purpose is, their mission is in life, etc, etc. Yeah, I think where I get really excited about the possibilities that your source work offers, is that I think many of us, (and I'm including myself in that, because I, myself have been on a journey of being a bit in my green blind spo...more
... in terms of learning and practicing to make decisions, to ask for when I need, to challenge things, to question things, to create proposals, to be a source of initiatives, and when that happens, I think only when both of those shifts in those directions happen can you have a truly self-managing organisat...more
...k me to look at their initiatives or their enterprises, I'm not looking at their organigram and their structure in that way, I'm looking at who's the source here, who started it? If it was started, historically, who's holding that position right now? Because if it's still alive, this thing as one of the s...more
...e here, who started it? If it was started, historically, who's holding that position right now? Because if it's still alive, this thing as one of the source principals, there must be somebody holding this energy, holding this field now. And who is it? And then who, who are the people? What is the line in ...more
... and they say, "Well, yes, but I have to go to somebody else" or "I have to put this to my committee", etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. When you go to a source person with your pet project and you recognise that they are in this line, they will love you from the start just for the simple recognition, because...more
...le. So what's your response to that? Peter Koenig: Well, as I said at the start, as far as I'm concerned, for any role, there's only one person and a source as the person who's taken the initiative. Now, it's not always easy to convince people about that I agree with you and my experience is that if peopl...more
...imenting with this and actually, I had the belief that we were, until after a certain point, I recognised looking with hindsight very clearly who the source of this particular group was, which explained so much of what happened within the group during the 10 years. It explains totally, I needn't go into d...more
...nd but has no basis on the ground in reality. So I would return and, (this is the thing that people don't like sometimes), to insist that there's one source for each initiative with a very singular vision, and a very singular purpose related to that person, and in a sense, the calling is had to materiali...more
...deas come from and I haven't met anybody who really does know. You could say from God, but I don't think it's worth looking at. I've had people in my Source Days, who have been, for example, founders of a petrol station, and very profane kind of businesses and they equally have inspired ideas of what the ...more
...e things like companies, money, these are all stories that we collect and believe in, and I think if you look at organisations through that lens, the source work makes a lot of sense - that an organisation can't be a living thing. Yuval Noah Harare says, a good test is, can it feel things? And an organisation ...more
...hat an organisation can't be a living thing. Yuval Noah Harare says, a good test is, can it feel things? And an organisation can't feel things. But a source can, a person who's holding the role of source can, so you know, okay, that's real, that's not a story that's a person. So I think yeah, sometimes fo...more
...val Noah Harare says, a good test is, can it feel things? And an organisation can't feel things. But a source can, a person who's holding the role of source can, so you know, okay, that's real, that's not a story that's a person. So I think yeah, sometimes for me, the danger of talking about organisations...more
..."well, what does the organisation want? Is it this ? But no, apparently it's not that. Okay!" Peter Koenig: So, what I say is that the organisation's source, if one's talking about that, the organization's purpose, excuse me, is the purpose of the founder. The purpose of the source, the vision is the visi...more
...that the organisation's source, if one's talking about that, the organization's purpose, excuse me, is the purpose of the founder. The purpose of the source, the vision is the vision of the source. And if it isn't, the whole thing is weakened. It needs to be that actually. And I agree with you about story...more
... talking about that, the organization's purpose, excuse me, is the purpose of the founder. The purpose of the source, the vision is the vision of the source. And if it isn't, the whole thing is weakened. It needs to be that actually. And I agree with you about story. So, ultimately what we're talking abou...more
... it isn't, the whole thing is weakened. It needs to be that actually. And I agree with you about story. So, ultimately what we're talking about, (the source work), I can acknowledge too, is a story. It's a story, (if you like) that I'm making up for the moment, because it came through me. But my deepest belief...more
...ty in terms of power, authority and responsibility, if somebody comes with the evidence, this is working, and their story is working better than the source work, I'll be the first to ditch the source work and say, "Okay, I go with yours." And who knows, it might, at some time in the future, even be so. I'm ev...more
...ibility, if somebody comes with the evidence, this is working, and their story is working better than the source work, I'll be the first to ditch the source work and say, "Okay, I go with yours." And who knows, it might, at some time in the future, even be so. I'm even open to this possibility, but it seems to...more
...e work relates to that? Peter Koenig: Right. So if you understand that you've got a field with the founder as the source of the whole field, it's the source, who takes 100% responsibility, and takes the decision for the whole field. But you've got people within the field, and hopefully, they are sources t...more
...ir particular field within the fields for it to work well. And there, they have total agency or should have total agency, and the only thing that the source of the whole, within whose field they're in, should be looking at is, what they're doing, does it fit the larger field? Not the details of the operat...more
...and I would never do what you're doing, this is your field, you've taken the responsibility to create it, you go ahead and do it." That's what a good source would do of a whole operation - wouldn't intervene because the intervention, (we're talking about pure delegation), the intervention in the sub sourc...more
...nt consent, even consensus in the group. So I would reframe what is seemed to be happening there in many sociocratic groups, is that actually, it's a source getting clear, and the others are really being very, very helpful. And when it's redefined in that kind of way, what I have found is that it is reall...more
...ed out to be what I would now call 'consciousness work' and related to your identity. So if you want to develop and become a more conscious, a better source, let's say that, it means developing, what one might call 'consciousness', and how this looks is that each of us is everything. Each of us has the ab...more
...es, as not being 'me', but see that everything has its potential use. And that's another aspect. But in a different way, I can come to the subject of source from that aspect of developing my own inner source becoming more and more whole as a being, more conscious as a being, and then being able to make my...more
...eople listening, who are on journeys of their own, perhaps towards becoming a self-managing organisation, or maybe they're on their own journey, as a source or doing their own inner work. So, with all of the work that you've done over the years with source and money work and identity work, what would be y...more
...tion, or maybe they're on their own journey, as a source or doing their own inner work. So, with all of the work that you've done over the years with source and money work and identity work, what would be your advice? What are some tips for the journey that you would share? Peter Koenig: Oh, boy, thanks f...more